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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 8:20:14 GMT -5
As for ALTS getting DKP, Mains have priority, however once a main is geared out their alt should be able to share in their DKP. That's not fair to the player at all. Or if a player logs on an alt to help out, rather than being on their main. Alts will ONLY be allowed to loot if no mains want loot. Whether they are fully epic itemed on their mains or not, that will not change. Alts will never have loot priority over a main, it is not fair. Basically alts and recruits are in the same boat. Main characters will have first priority always. If no main bids on an item then it is open to alts and trials.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 8:22:56 GMT -5
Also, +400, -400 should be it. It's settled then. There will be a cap and it will be positive/negative 400. Once you hit positive 400 your overflow points will only continue to add up for bidding purpouses. Once you hit negative 400 you will no longer be able to bid (I don't see anyone ever hitting the negative cap).
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Post by clunk on Nov 3, 2005 12:51:52 GMT -5
"Once you hit positive 400 your overflow points will only continue to add up for bidding purpouses."
Can you explain that one to me? I'm sorta confused on that.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 12:57:56 GMT -5
You can go over 400 points for bidding. If Clunk has 472 DKP and Zaar has exactly 400, Clunk has highest DKP and would win. Clunk's DKP is then dropped to the 400 cap, THEN he loses 50 dkp for the item he bid on. Leaving him with 350 DKP.
This way you can still use the points to determine who's turn it is for loot (Clunk attended more raids to get his 472 DKP so he deserves the next item more than Zaar who only has 400 DKP).
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Post by clunk on Nov 3, 2005 13:00:44 GMT -5
Hrmmmmm I don't know if I like that idea, however whatever is for the better of the guild. I think it'd be hard for anyone to hit the 400+ mark anyways, correct? I won't be bidding on a ton of stuff however because I don't need much
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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 13:03:11 GMT -5
It's better than a hard cap of 400, then just haveing everyone tied at 400 /random 100.
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Post by clunk on Nov 3, 2005 13:06:33 GMT -5
ok I gtg to work now, unlike rhellion who can go to random offices and use computers
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Post by torret on Nov 3, 2005 13:31:53 GMT -5
Damn you for posting that as I was writing my other response. Damn you.....! /sacrafice gnome baby DO NOT ENVOKE MY WRATH!
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Post by korf on Nov 3, 2005 14:06:10 GMT -5
I am with Clunk, I truly don't see the problem with people point whoring. After all, they are not taking any loot so when they actually do wana go on a spending spree, it was deserved.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 14:19:53 GMT -5
They can point whore all they want, up to 400 points.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 3, 2005 16:12:28 GMT -5
I was thinking more about alts today.
If we want alts to be able to bid the same, I think it's unfair to share dkp between characters. One example: Characters who have main healers have an advantage with their alts because they are so necessary and in short supply, and build dkp faster than any other class. The day they do end up on their alt they have all that dkp while others who may fight for a spot every raid in their more populated class have less dkp.
If that makes sense.
What I'm suggesting is either leave it how it is with alts having secondary priority after main characters (along with trials), or have a seperate dkp entry where alts must earn their own dkp seperate from the mains.
Thoughts?
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Post by antimode on Nov 3, 2005 17:18:38 GMT -5
I think they should Earn thier own DKP, theres no way in hell that my alt should share my DKP, Example of what I would do if I could share my DKP
Antimode had 500 DKP Anti'srogue has 0 but I have him to 60, I take him on a raid, this raid we as a guild take down Rag, Perditions Blade drops, because Antimode needs no equimpment and has been Hording his DKP my alt gets Perditions...thats just not right lol.
I do believe that they should earn there own dkp so that If you want to switch Chars you can but you start at 0 DKP just like a new member.
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Post by clunk on Nov 4, 2005 3:52:52 GMT -5
I think they should Earn thier own DKP, theres no way in hell that my alt should share my DKP, Example of what I would do if I could share my DKP Antimode had 500 DKP Anti'srogue has 0 but I have him to 60, I take him on a raid, this raid we as a guild take down Rag, Perditions Blade drops, because Antimode needs no equimpment and has been Hording his DKP my alt gets Perditions...thats just not right lol. I do believe that they should earn there own dkp so that If you want to switch Chars you can but you start at 0 DKP just like a new member. See the way I look at that is , you earned all the DKP yourself. So what, your class was needed and you helped the guild. If you want to spend your points on your alt, no problem everyone there SHOULD KNOW that you've been helping the guild, and your loot is well deserved. I'm sure no one would be complaining if when loot dropped and you were on antimode and they got it. Then when you want to loot you can.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 4, 2005 7:25:22 GMT -5
I think they should Earn thier own DKP, theres no way in hell that my alt should share my DKP, Example of what I would do if I could share my DKP Antimode had 500 DKP Anti'srogue has 0 but I have him to 60, I take him on a raid, this raid we as a guild take down Rag, Perditions Blade drops, because Antimode needs no equimpment and has been Hording his DKP my alt gets Perditions...thats just not right lol. I do believe that they should earn there own dkp so that If you want to switch Chars you can but you start at 0 DKP just like a new member. I agree with all of this.
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Post by rhellion on Nov 4, 2005 9:30:13 GMT -5
I think they should Earn thier own DKP, theres no way in hell that my alt should share my DKP, Example of what I would do if I could share my DKP Antimode had 500 DKP Anti'srogue has 0 but I have him to 60, I take him on a raid, this raid we as a guild take down Rag, Perditions Blade drops, because Antimode needs no equimpment and has been Hording his DKP my alt gets Perditions...thats just not right lol. I do believe that they should earn there own dkp so that If you want to switch Chars you can but you start at 0 DKP just like a new member. See the way I look at that is , you earned all the DKP yourself. So what, your class was needed and you helped the guild. If you want to spend your points on your alt, no problem everyone there SHOULD KNOW that you've been helping the guild, and your loot is well deserved. I'm sure no one would be complaining if when loot dropped and you were on antimode and they got it. Then when you want to loot you can. You seriously don't see anything wrong with someone like an Officer (who gets a raid spot almost by default) who already has full epic loot, hording dkp on his main, then switching to his rogue alt for one day and getting a Perdition Blade or something similar? Are you joking? The decision that needs to be made is either "mains over alts priority" or "seperate dkp for mains and alts".
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