Ontime DKP

[rhellion]

There needs to be ontime DKP or people will not show up ontime, it's a fact. We should reward people who show up early and prepared, so we don't have to wait for people dicking around in IF. People will WANT to be ontime, in the raid, and ready to go... and the run will always be better off for it.

That and it rewards people who show up in the beginning, ontime, and clear the whole instance... as opposed to the people who join the raid before the boss and get full dkp.

Double DKP is ONLY for first kills, double dkp will never be awarded for Luci again. It also has nothing to do with being on time.

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I think we should not award on time DKP points anymore. I think double DKP is incentive enough to get there on time.

They should want to be online ontime and read so we can start to get to our next boss. BOE doesn't go to the highest DKP in the guild but the highest DKP in the raid. So, if they want some extra DKP they will want to be ontime and there during hte trash mob grind.

We should decide on this as a council by vote. Please vote and also respond in the thread when you vote.

[rhellion]

I vote yes for the reason I listed in my quote.

[korf]

I vote no, for what I said.
Also Rhellion, the way this is presented is supreme. All people vote and hopefuly we vote for the best of the guild in doing so.

[rhellion]

I don't know what you want. We aren't going to do it your way, just because it's your way... and same goes for me and mine. If there is a discrepancy we should all vote as a council. Otherwise why is there a council? It is not supreme. It is exactly how things should be decided... not by one person.

Again, please vote and then reply with why you voted.

[rhellion]

vanith said:

They SHOULD want to be, yes, but they're not. 1 DKP helps to get the point across that we need to be set and ready to go on time. I would say until the guild shows that they can be ready to go on time on a week to week or raid to raid basis we keep on time DKP.

It's a question of what motivates them. Yes, they're motivated by DKP from epics, but there's no real benefit to them being first or last there, especially if it's someone we can't raid without. 1 bonus DKP is a motivational factor for them to be on time. Is there really a reason we shouldn't give it out? We're trying to get people eager to go to MC regularly. I don't understand why we would not use a tool like ontime DKP to help with this.

Trust me here, motivating people is not done by fear of punishment. We have to make them want to be on time with positive reinforcement rather than criticism!

(Can you tell this is part of what I do for a living? Being in charge of 50 employees and 4 mid level managers teaches you a thing or two)

[vanith]

Rhellion quoted what I have previously posted...so yea.

Also, though I could be wrong, I think Korf was complimenting you on the way you set up a poll.

[korf]

/sigh

[rhellion]

It was worded poorly, and just sounded like another conflict in the making.

[rhellion]

END THIS THREAD... reposted on our new forums.

[rhellion]

PLEASE repost your comments and revote.