Regarding Kullaian

[korf]

So he never cooled down last night. I was not on when Nelynduil was talking with him but he informed Nelynduil last night that he was going to wait untill today at peak hours to make alot of drama and leave. So with being informed I loged in preping to defuse the situation however there was no reasoning and he promply did a /gquit.

His comments were as follows towards myself when he left.

Kullaian:"gl with your gold farmer".
Korf: Good luck as well.
Kullaian:"i reported her by the way"
Korf: I am sure it will get far.
Kullaian: "i also told some hh about you having a farmer in your guild. so prepare to be flamed"
Korf: We will live.

I believe that what ever screw up Bing has commited can be resolved. There is a communication barrier, and I am the door. However, I think because she is a chinese farmer should not result in her being discriminated against as a member of this guild. She has donated to the guild. She has been more then honorable towards it's policies and members. I think as officers and council members we should allow her stay with us to continue. With saying this, I am going to give you a short quote of a letter she has sent me through the mail.




hihi~sean.i got the blue boot.~lol.so cool.thank u.and guilds.our guild is so cool.wow.everyone is nice to me.i'm not sure if one day i have to leave server(translated by korf).but i will be back as soon as i can.my shoulder chest legs and one of rings r still green.so i'm working on change them to blue.and my paladin is a nice paladin lol.our guild = family.thank u all.
<3 sean.matts.katie.and mach.nely.deli.arch.secp.and all guild's friends.

Should a person who works at Target not be allowed to buy their shirts?

On another note, after her donations to the guild she also has taught some of our members how to farm gold very efficently. Including Kullaian.

[korf]

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I missed a screen shot of me saying the following of: I did not say we would take HH out but take alot of their good core members. I also do not remember talking about The Madness.

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[rhellion]

His drama and comments were way out of line. We should make a seperate topic about bing. It is another subject than Kull's actions last night.

[clunk]

He can say what he wants, and why did he tell HH about bing being in the guild, now that's funny.

However I totally agree with rhellions post, about bing. Shit happens guys, and if Kulluian is choosing to be immature and shit talk us so be it, we'll get through it and we'll be fine.

Thanks for stepping up and handling the matter maturely Rhellion, and thanks for helping out with it also Korf.

If she can't learn to play by the time we do MC, we will not use her , it is way too hard to communicate with her and it wastes time.

Also, his comments were out of line, it just shows his maturity level and what not. Today when I get home from work I'm changing forum passwords , and I'll post it.

We've still got a ways to go to where we want to be. We have to stick together, and make this happen. This guild is going to be a sucess one way or another. We're going to have to look to our members to help lead the way ; while also thinking of another officer since unshaper won't be around much.

I think we've been making fine progress, and Kull can talk all he wants, he was drunk last night and rather irritable. He was ranting about how she recieved special treatment, which he was kind of right on.

We should not have to explain things to her, it makes it harder on the guild even if she is a good person. Every 10 mins she's asking if we're gonna raid and what not, and durring fights we needed heals she had full mana and was attacking mobs. In my mind there is no such thing as a combat paladin for instances. They can off tank sure, but they're more valuable healers and cleansers...trust me on that.

I do not want this matter to go any further, any more problems / having to explan things too much may result in a demotion or a kick once we talk about it.

We had problems with a girl player named Desma in HH, and it got people really mad. I don't want Kull to start running around and trying to pull people out of our guild, that's not cool and his maturity truly shows.

If we have better players on for a raid, I would have to say they should deserve a spot over bing.

I've been leading clans / guilds since I was 14 (I'm 22 now) , I'm a manager at work, and I know how to deal with people. We need to deal with things civily or else this guild will not go where we want it to. Think rationally, and delegate in the same manner.

I'm going to be gone for about 9-10 days in November, from the 17th to the 28th or 29th. I'll be in Europe with a buddy doing it up. I'm going to be looking at Rhellion, Korf, Torret, and Vitality for direct leadership while I'm gone. I don't wanna come back and have my guild be in dire trouble.

Lets keep this together and focus on the prize, I've got enough problems in my life as it is

Comment.

[rhellion]

Good post.

I agree, we need to make a firm stand with bing and we need to let the guild know she is being treated like anyone esle... before we lose more members over this. People resent special treatment. I agreed with Kull's rant until he got out of line.

As for other officers, that is also a topic for another post.

[rhellion]

We need to post why Kull left in the member forum. Be careful in your post, as he had a valid complaint but was just all wrong in his method of protest. We also need to clear the air about how we will be handling Bing.

[clunk]

You can do that if you wish, the posting in the private forums Rhellion, I have to go to work and I don't have a computer there.

[korf]

I agree with what everyone has been saying about Bing. However, I do not think removing her from the guild because of one dick head should go.

[vitality]

If it needs to be done Korf for the good of the guild,
I'd rather drop her then lose anymore players who actually can raid and dont require someone telling her how to do things.

Kullaian did get out of hand, and it isn't cool that he flamed on you or that he
said he was telling people about bing being in the guild.

I wont care, veno already knew anyway and i'm sure he shared it with Heavy hitters that
bing was a farmer.

Anyway back to the matters of bings membership, She's a great person and I'm sure she could get the hang of raiding with a little practice, but its so hard to keep the communication with her, and clunk has a point that letting others instead of her raid might be a good idea , but then again if it should be that we want bing to learn to raid we should allow her to come to some of them. Otherwise she will never learn. I dont want any special treatment going on though, it does affect people.

[korf]

vitality said:

If it needs to be done Korf for the good of the guild,
I'd rather drop her then lose anymore players who actually can raid and dont require someone telling her how to do things.

Kullaian did get out of hand, and it isn't cool that he flamed on you or that he
said he was telling people about bing being in the guild.

I wont care, veno already knew anyway and i'm sure he shared it with Heavy hitters that
bing was a farmer.

Anyway back to the matters of bings membership, She's a great person and I'm sure she could get the hang of raiding with a little practice, but its so hard to keep the communication with her, and clunk has a point that letting others instead of her raid might be a good idea , but then again if it should be that we want bing to learn to raid we should allow her to come to some of them. Otherwise she will never learn. I dont want any special treatment going on though, it does affect people.

I fucking hate to ever do this, I feel like I am breaking a comandment written by god or something. But.....I think Vitality might be right....DAMNIT.

[clunk]

Or maybe that he was refering to my point